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Three workhorse knives: Heiji, Kochi and Watanabe

Discussion in 'The Kitchen Knife' started by mark76, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. When I first got into Japanese knives I was impressed because they were much lighter and more nimble than the German knives I was used to. And I liked the fact that they were made of a hard steel that was easy to sharpen and that I could get to a screamy edge.

    But nowadays there is another type of Japanese knife that is quite popular: the workhorse knife. By a workhorse I mean a knife that is quite hefty (for a Japanese knife) and relatively thick at the spine.

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    So I decided to get a number of workhorse knives and to see how I liked them: a 210 mm Nakaya-Heiji gyuto, a 180 mm Watanabe gyuto and a 210 mm Kochi gyuto.


    Looks

    All three of the knives have what I would call a rustic look. The Kochi and the Watanabe have a kurouchi finish and the Heiji is also a cladded knife. The core steel of the Heiji is a semi-stainless steel, the core of the Kochi is an unspecified carbon steel and the Watanabe is made of aogami steel. The claddings on all three of the knives are stainless. Funnily enough, the Heiji was the first one to pick up a patina, even though it was the only one made of semi-stainless steel. None of the knives are very reactive, by the way.

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    Heiji

    Rustic sometimes also means that the fit and finish are not optimal. All three of the knives had handles made of burnt chestwood, but the handle of the Watanabe was badly finished: there was at least a millimeter difference in height between the wood and the ferrule. And the ferrule was made of plastic. So I decided to replace that handle by a nice one made of Oregon maple burl. There were no sharp edges on any of the knife spines, but the Kochi was the only one with a rounded spine and ferrule. It was clearly the best finished knife.

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    Kochi

    All three knives came pretty sharp out of their boxes, only the Heiji had a wire burr. So I first took that one to a fine stone. Even though I hardly sharpened it, I immediately felt I liked the steel: it gave a very good feedback. And I'm sure that if I'd sharpen it further, that would be an easy and enjoyable task.

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    Watanabe


    Measurements

    The profiles of the knives are not too dissimilar. I would describe them as all-round: all three of them have a proper flat spot (although the Heiji has a slight recurve towards the heel), but they also nicely curve up towards the tip, which makes them suitable for rock chopping. All three knives have nearly the same height at the heel (47 or 48 mm), so they provide enough knuckle clearance.

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    Profile of the Kochi

    They do differ in their spine thicknesses, however. They all have about the same thickness at the heel (4.1 to 4.3 mm), but the Kochi is the only knife with a relatively thin tip: it measures 0.9 mm at one centimeter from the tip. The Heiji and the Watanabe are 1.3 and 1.2 mm thick respectively at the same spot. This makes the Heiji the knife with the thickest tip I own.

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    Kochi choil shot

    Their geometries also differ. At 5 mm above the edge the Heiji, the Kochi and the Watanabe are respectively 0.8, 0.7 and 0.6 mm thick halfway the blade. This may not sound like a large difference, but the thickness of a knife just above the edge is very important for its cutting performance. Again, the Heiji is the thickest knife just above the edge I own (together with a Takeda knife).

    The balance point of all three of the knives is well in front of the choil. The Watanabe had it about 2 centimeters in front of the choil, with the Kochi it was about 3 centimeters and with the Heiji it was even half a centimeter more.


    Cutting performance

    I started my cutting tests with onions. The Watanabe and the Kochi dealt with them beautifully. However, the Heiji had major problems with the horizontal cuts, probably due to its thick tip. One time it even got stuck in an onion. It also did not deal optimally with the vertical cuts.

    Then it was time for carrots. Again, the Watanabe and the Kochi cut them fine. I could experience a minimal amount of wedging, but this wasn't enough to bother me. However, the Heiji really made the carrots say “crack”, a sign of serious wedging.

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    I was making a dish called hotchpotch, a mash of potatoes, onions and carrots, so the final ingredient to deal with was potatoes. All three knives did well on these potatoes, although it was still noticeable that the Heiji was a bit thick behind the edge. Food release on all three of the knives was quite good: better than on the laser type of knives I usually use. It was hard to distinguish the amount of food release of the knives. Maybe it was slightly better on the Heiji, but if it was, this was only by a tiny amount. But food release on all three knives was good.

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    After this I used the knife on many other types of ingredients, of course. Generally they all dealt well with softer foods. But cutting hard foods and making thin slices was the most challenging with the Heiji.


    Conclusion

    I like workhorse type knives! At least when they are properly ground. They can cut nearly as good as laser-type knives and they have better food release. I’ve heard people say their workhorse knife “falls through food”. That was unfortunately not the case, but I definitely appreciate the fact that they are somewhat blade-heavy.

    Of the knives I tested both the Kochi and the Watanabe were very good cutters. I'd say that in this respect they're on par. But the Kochi definitely had the best fit and finish and a thinner tip. The Heiji was too thick above the edge and its tip was too thick for me as well. I’ve read many positive stories about the Heiji, but they're hand-made knives and maybe mine was made on a Monday. So I’m afraid this one is going to leave my house.

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    The Kochi: my favorite workhorse knife


    Factsheets

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  2. MotoMike

    MotoMike Founding Member

    Excellent! I know more about those knives now than I could have imagined. Well done
     
  3. Jeffery Hunter

    Jeffery Hunter Founding Member

    Great write up Mark! Was it personal preference that made you opt for the 210/180 and not 240?

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  4. Thanks, Mark!
    Thought… no workhorse review is complete without a Kato! :argo
     
  5. Thanks Mark. As always super informative
     
  6. rogue108

    rogue108 Founding Member

    Great detailed write-up and boy is there a lot of information. The inner nerd in me appreciates the time you have spent to put it all together.

    I do question why knives need to be in a category. I don't think of a Kochi as a workhorse and a Watanabe has changed in years. I am not criticizing your great work but the recent need to fit knives into a category.

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  7. MattS

    MattS Founding Member

    Love the botttom graphs. Wish every knife had one of these.
     
  8. Thanks guys for your kind remarks.

    Hahah... Wait for my next review ;).

    I agree with you to some extend, but I do consider the Kochi as a Workhorse knife. My definition (also given in the review) is a knife that is hefy for a Japanese knife and quite thick at the spine. Consequently it is usually quite blade-heavy as well. I know some ppl also want a workhorse knife not to be too thin behind the edge, but since I'm a home cook and don't abuse my knives, I don't like any knife to be thick behind the edge. Where I agree with you is that sometimes grouping knives into a certain category can be arbitrary. To me it is a way to compare knives and it brings me to describe things it would otherwise perhaps not describe. For example, I did a review in which I compared a Carter knife to a cheap knife made of the same steel. I hope that brought out well why this Carter is such a great knife and also why a cheap knife can be so cheap (i.e. many faults).
     
  9. Great review. Definitely gave some insight into these knives.
     
  10. rogue108

    rogue108 Founding Member

    I have no problem with your "workhorse" criteria for the purpose of making a comparison. I am very happy with your selection and greatly appreciate what you have done but I think you illustrate my point in your response. People have different criteria for what is a workhorse. A Kochi is one to you, others consider a Kato to be the definition. I'm just not sure where this workhorse fad came from. What why it's so popular and knives in the workhorse category so coveted. Anyway, I'm sorry for clogging up your informational thread and will stop.

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  11. I think you said it.. it is a faf or trend. My understanding was that several years ago it was laser's.

    Things change. New knives become the it knives. I think workhorse comes from the idea that they have more heft so they just feel more "solid".

    Aka a workhorse as opposed to a race horsre.
     
  12. Sure, you're right. Still it's funny. When I got into Japanese knives, one of the arguments for them was that they were much lighter than Western knives. At least with workhorse knives that argument doesn't hold any longer.
     

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