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NO MORE ************** Redwood!

Discussion in 'JapaneseKnifeSharpening / Dave Martell Knives' started by Dave Martell, Apr 5, 2014.

  1. Dave Martell

    Dave Martell Professional Craftsman Founding Member

    Sorry folks but I've worked with the last block of red dust (redwood) today. Once again I've been shown that this stuff is sub-standard for use when attempting to make money. I'm many hours into a rehandle that just went south because the wood is not really wood, it's formed dust. Now I've got to grind the redwood off, reimburse the customer for the loss, buy another mosaic pin, lose my hours into it already, possibly risk hosing the knife (which I've already thinned!), and now re-work a whole new block of wood (again). Ugh!!!

    I might take buckeye burl off the list too. There's just too much risk for me to keep playing around with this garbage.

    Rant mode OFF

    Dave



    PS - I don't blame anyone but myself here, I know better.
     
  2. Twistington

    Twistington Founding Member

    When it comes to those woods(buckeye or redwood) and western handles they have been off my list since last summer, think stainless pins went out through the door around that time aswell.
    For WA I find redwood pretty neat to work with though.
     
  3. Dave Martell

    Dave Martell Professional Craftsman Founding Member

    I dropped stainless pins a long time ago too. :D

    I guess that I'd consider redwood for wa handles but no more on westerns.
     
  4. gavination

    gavination Founding Member

    Ick. Sorry to hear it Dave! Thankfully my block of redwood that I'm going to send to you eventually (hopefully haha) is for a wa handle. ;)
     
  5. MattS

    MattS Founding Member

    Lol, that took awhile. Beautiful wood, but a pita to work with.
     
  6. Dave Martell

    Dave Martell Professional Craftsman Founding Member


    It is great looking stuff and I've had some redwood that worked nice but mostly it's a pain in the ass and I've just had too many losses to justify the risk. I do think that making an octagonal wa handle would fit this stuff better.
     
  7. Dream Burls

    Dream Burls Founding Member

    Would that apply to stabilized Redwood also Dave?
     
  8. PierreRodrigue

    PierreRodrigue Tactical Walrus Founding Member

    Stabilized is no better, I "pulled apart" 2 wa handles, rubbing in an oil/wax top coat. Its too brittle.
     
  9. James

    James smarter then your average duck Founding Member Gold Contributor

    odd all the redwood originals ive seen were tough lol (SOA reference)

    sorry about the frustrations Dave sounds like a crappy day
     
  10. John Fout

    John Fout Founding Member

    I can come up with something besides buckeye for mine. I was surprised you had picked some.
     
  11. Dave Martell

    Dave Martell Professional Craftsman Founding Member


    I'll be giving yours a go John. I've been lucky in the past with some of it, just also very unlucky too. Buckeye is better than redwood.
     
  12. Dave Martell

    Dave Martell Professional Craftsman Founding Member


    I've had terrible luck with about 90% of the stabilized redwood I've used. What has always kept me trying is the great colors and patterns plus when a block works it's so damn nice looking that I forget about the bad.
     
  13. John Fout

    John Fout Founding Member

    Ok. I was looking for backups just in case.
     
  14. apathetic

    apathetic Founding Member

    Just out of curiosity, what's the deal with stainless pins?
     
  15. Dave Martell

    Dave Martell Professional Craftsman Founding Member


    Metal & wood wear at different rates, the greater the difference the harder it is to make them fit flush. Stainless wears slow and is much harder than wood so when using stainless pins they want to sit proud of the wood.
     
  16. butch

    butch Founding Member

    SS pins are no problem if you use a hard backer (break the edges or you can gouge the wood )
    hard backer keeps the paper at the same level as the hardest part of the handle.
     

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