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kitchen knives ban call

Discussion in 'The Kitchen Knife' started by Jim, May 30, 2014.

  1. Jim

    Jim Old Curmudgeon Founding Member


    Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
    Doctors say knives are too pointed
    A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.
    A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

    They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

    The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

    The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

    They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

    None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

    The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

    Knife wound
    Kitchen knives can inflict appalling wounds
    In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

    The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

    The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

    French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

    A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

    The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

    "The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

    "We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

    Government response

    Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

    "The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

    "Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

    "An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

    "The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

    A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."
  2. Rick

    Rick aka Pensacola Tiger Founding Member Gold Contributor

    In 2002, the estimated number of healthcare-associated infections (HAIs) in U.S. hospitals was approximately 1.7 million. The estimated number of deaths associated with HAIs in U.S. hospitals was 98,987.

    Conclusion. HAIs in hospitals are a significant cause of morbidity and mortality in the United States. Thus, hospitals and heathcare professionals should be banned.
  3. Burl Source

    Burl Source Founding Member

    How about cars?
    Maybe they should be banned to stop deaths related to car wrecks.
    ...or politicians they get us into wars.
    OK, I've got it. How about we ban criminals and that will stop crime.
  4. I must agree about traditional Sheffield knives with their arrow-like tip. I tend to round them a bit with sharpening -- poor habit, I agree.
  5. John Fout

    John Fout Founding Member

    Nanny states always chance the wrong reasons. Unfortunately most of us Americans can't helpful English friends.
  6. Haggises

    Haggises Founding Member

    Nakiris for everrrrybodddddyyyyyyy
  7. My guess is Michael Bloomberg is backing this.
  8. James

    James smarter then your average duck Founding Member Gold Contributor

  9. Toothpick

    Toothpick #2 since day #1 Founding Member

  10. cheflarge

    cheflarge Founding Member

    Are you F'n kidding me?!?!? Lets pay some knuckle head a million bucks to do a study on "common sense," ******!
  11. WarrenB

    WarrenB Contributor

    That story looks like it was 9 years ago, personally I haven't heard anything about a ban since then over here. Doesn't really matter what you ban, the people with a tendency to carry knives to do harm will always find other things to use as weapons. For instance I saw a group of kids around 12-13 years old near my place tooling themselves up with screwdrivers a few weeks ago, one of them was showing the others how to stab someone with a screwdriver, so sad:( I did call the police by the way and they sent about 6 cars and 15 officers down to deal with them.
    There are so many things than can cause serious injuries, but knife crime is a hot topic over here so guess it gets the most media coverage.
  12. Jay

    Jay No soup for you Founding Member

    In fifty years, we'll all be required to wear motorcycle helmets at the kitchen table.
  13. XooMG

    XooMG Founding Member

    Common sense is pretty inaccurate and unreliable in many situations, actually. However, that doesn't make the [old] proposed ban any less worthy of ridicule.
  14. James

    James smarter then your average duck Founding Member Gold Contributor

    some of us are already there Jay lol
  15. MattS

    MattS Founding Member

    He has the money to lobby against everything except grape fruit and skim milk.
  16. Haggises

    Haggises Founding Member

    Jim is being a wascally wabble wouser....
  17. HHH Knives

    HHH Knives Founding Member

    ridiculousness! Thanks for the laugh!
  18. Jim

    Jim Old Curmudgeon Founding Member

  19. WarrenB

    WarrenB Contributor

  20. Spaz

    Spaz Founding Member

    Were would we put all the people that should be dead from stabbings then. $hit's over crowded as it is. We need to make longer and pointier knives to get rid of more of the Darwins out there.

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